Transcript: Bill Whitaker – The Road To Syria Documentary

Bill Whitaker reports from inside the Syrian base from which Russia is launching air strikes in support of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad. 

CBS News correspondent Bill Whitaker is joining the cast of the network's "60 Minutes." Whitaker has been with CBS since 1984. (Photo: Michael Yarish/ 2014 CBS Broadcasting Inc.).
CBS News correspondent Bill Whitaker is joining the cast of the network’s “60 Minutes.” Whitaker has been with CBS since 1984. (Photo: Michael Yarish/ CBS Broadcasting Inc.).

This article contains sections of the script from “The Road to Syria” which aired this week on CBC. Whitaker is a correspondent for the popular television series, “60 Minutes”; Henry Schuster and Rachael Morehouse are the producers. (Transcript has been shortened, link to the 60 minutes video and full transcript is located at the end).

The civil war in Syria was a powder keg when the Russians intervened in September.

They put up an airbase and started bombing targets there.

Russian President Vladimir Putin said the airstrikes were aimed at fighting Islamic terrorism, but it quickly became apparent that the majority of the bombs were aimed, not at ISIS, but at other Syrian insurgent groups fighting the regime of Russia’s ally, President Bashar al-Assad.

Whatever their motives, the Russians have inserted themselves into the Syrian conflict and any discussion of how it might end.

A few months ago, 60 Minutes reported from the American base in Qatar, the command center for U.S. operations in the Middle East. We wanted to see the Russian base. So we asked and they agreed.

We set out on the road to Syria — which took us on a detour we didn’t expect.

To get to the Russian airbase in Latakia, Syria, you have to start here in Moscow.

The civil war in Syria was a powder keg when the Russians intervened in September. They put up an airbase and started bombing targets there. Russian President Vladimir Putin said the airstrikes were aimed at fighting Islamic terrorism, but it quickly became apparent that the majority of the bombs were aimed, not at ISIS, but at other Syrian insurgent groups fighting the regime of Russia's ally, President Bashar al-Assad.

You don’t just show up at the gates of the airbase. You have to be invited by the Russian Ministry of Defense, then taken on a Russian military transport on a circuitous five-hour flight over territory friendly to Russia — the Caspian Sea, Iran, Iraq, before finally landing in Syria.

It was almost midnight when our plane took off from a Russian airbase outside Moscow. As we started to take pictures out the window, we were told “nyet,” “no,” something we heard often during the next three days.

This was the first face we saw after landing.

That’s Syrian President Bashar al-Assad. This once was a Syrian airport. Since the summer, the Russians have built barracks, brought in 4,000 personnel, paved roads, rolled in truckloads of equipment and munitions – erecting a bit of Russia in the heart of Assad-controlled Syria.

Whatever their motives, the Russians have inserted themselves into the Syrian conflict and any discussion of how it might end. A few months ago, 60 Minutes reported from the American base in Qatar, the command center for U.S. operations in the Middle East. We wanted to see the Russian base. So we asked and they agreed. We set out on the road to Syria -- which took us on a detour we didn't expect.. Russian fighter-bomber, the Su-34. 01/2016. (Photo: CBC NEWS website).
Russian fighter-bomber, the Su-34. January 2016. (Photo: CBC NEWS website).

Our Russian guide in Syria, Major General Igor Konashenkov, is chief spokesman for the Ministry of Defense.

Over the previous 24 hours, he said, 320 insurgents and 34 armored vehicles were destroyed. Independent monitoring groups told us some of the planes we saw taking off did bomb ISIS targets, but most bombed more immediate threats to the Assad regime — groups like the U.S.-backed Free Syrian Army and al-Nusra, the Syrian arm of al Qaeda.

The Russian military says they have flown more than 5,000 sorties — mostly from here — since President Putin ordered the bombing campaign in September.

Admiral Vladimir Komoyedov is the chairman of the Russian Parliament’s Defense Committee. He was involved in the planning of the Syrian mission.

Bill Whitaker: What is the primary goal of Russia in this intervention?

Vladimir Komoyedov, translator: The main task is to restore statehood in this region, Syrian statehood.

Bill Whitaker: The United States is focused primarily on defeating ISIS. And Russia seems to have other priorities, supporting the Assad regime and helping the Assad regime fight its enemies. And that seems to take priority over fighting ISIS.

Vladimir Komoyedov: If you cut off the head, you get chaos. There’s chaos in Libya, chaos essentially in Iraq. Half the country is under ISIL. And the head was chopped off there, you see. So, if you want to so stubbornly remove the leaders of Syria, it’s an enormous mistake.

Bill Whitaker: I’m just wondering if you believe that Assad has a role in the future of Syria?

Vladimir Komoyedov: The problem is that he has lost some of his authority. The people themselves must figure out, in elections, whom to follow and how to build their lives, which have been essentially ruined in Syria.

Ruined, in large part, by President Assad’s own military. We got the sense Admiral Komoyedov is not crazy about the Syrian president, who has dropped bombs on his own people.

The admiral used a derogatory term to describe Assad, then asked that we not repeat it on TV.

Vladimir Komoyedov: We know why the opposition was formed. It was formed due to the mistakes of the president of Syria himself.

Russia has stationed in the eastern Mediterranean several warships capable of launching guided missiles — the flagship missile cruiser Moskva, one destroyer, and two smaller frigates. (Photo: Denis Abramov / Vedomosti).
Russia has stationed in the eastern Mediterranean several warships capable of launching guided missiles — the flagship missile cruiser Moskva, one destroyer, and two smaller frigates. 10/05/2015.  (Photo: Denis Abramov / Vedomosti).

After months of almost daily bombing, ISIS and the other insurgent groups fighting the Assad regime have barely been budged from the territory they hold.  And Russia has added more planes and expanded to other bases here in Syria. 

Bill Whitaker: Did Russia overestimate the power of the Syrian Army?

Vladimir Komoyedov: But we have been fulfilling our obligations to Syria and we will go on fulfilling them. President Assad shouldn’t rest on his laurels. He needs to work on his army, and raise its morale, and if necessary, lead the army himself. He needs to unite his forces which are scattered like fingers. They must be clenched into a fist. If you can’t beat them, at least you can give them a black eye.

It was the Russians who got a black eye when one of their war planes was shot down and a pilot killed by the Turkish Air Force in late November.

Bill Whitaker: When I see all of this, I just wonder, who are you fighting? ISIS doesn’t have any capability like this.General Konashenkov told us the ship’s main mission is not to fight terrorists. After Turkey shot down the Russian fighter, the Moscow was reassigned to provide anti-aircraft defense.

Maria Lipman is an independent political analyst.
Maria Lipman is an independent political analyst.

Maria Lipman is a political analyst in Moscow, one of the few independent voices willing to publically criticize President Putin.

Maria Lipman: Russia has to be reckoned with, which has been Putin’s goal all along throughout the 15 years of his leadership.

Maria Lipman: Seeing Russia waging this state-of-the-art military operation in a very important region made the Russians feel proud. This began with the annexation of Crimea, when Russia reinstated historical justice, the way it was seen in Russia.

Bill Whitaker: So this is primarily not about Syria, but about Russia’s place in the world?

Maria Lipman: Of course it is also about Syria. But I do not think the goal– the primary goal was to stop the war. I think the primary goal was Russia’s stature in the world.

We wanted to know what they thought of Russia’s war here in Latakia, a coastal province, home to about two million people.

This is Assad territory.

The shops looked full and life seemed normal as we rode through town.

We weren’t allowed off the bus — for security reasons, our Russian minders said.

Instead, they took us to a refugee camp at the city’s sports complex.

While hundreds of thousands of Syrians have fled to Europe from the bombs and brutality of President Assad and his opponents, the Russians wanted to show us people who had fled to the safety of the Syrian government.

These are (only) about 5,000 of the millions of refugees from this civil war.

Amid the tents, we found this woman. She's been here three years, after fleeing Aleppo with her daughter and grandchildren. January 2016. (Photo: CBC News).
Amid the tents, we found this woman. She’s been here three years, after fleeing Aleppo with her daughter and grandchildren. January 2016. (Photo: CBC News).

Bill Whitaker: What was happening in Aleppo that made you come here to this camp?

They destroyed our homes she told us. She said her son was killed.

Bill Whitaker: You lost everything?

She told us she didn’t know who was responsible for the barrel bomb, dropped from a plane that destroyed her house. But barrel bombs are a signature weapon of the Assad regime.

For those on the receiving end of the Russian bombs

… we were shown the planes being heavily armed for their missions, we saw many of what are known as dumb bombs being loaded – unguided weapons, which human rights groups say have led to more than 500 civilian deaths.

Bill Whitaker: “Correct me if I’m wrong, I have read that many of the targets hit by the Russians have been selected by the Syrians.

“Is that true?

Vladimir Komoyedov: “We use our data and Syrian data.

“But I think there’s a trick in your question, that supposedly if we’re striking we’re hitting the wrong target.

“Yes, there may be mistakes.

“But you have to know that such things happen.

“We know how many times the Americans have missed, you know.

“War is not like going for a stroll somewhere in the park.

“War is death.

“It’s weaponry, it’s fire.”

By design, the Russians showed off their firepower but not the results and the results have not been dramatic.

According to the defense and intelligence publication, IHS Jane’s, after three months of Russian bombing, the Syrian army has managed to take back less than one percent of the territory seized by the insurgents

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Watch the full documentary on the CBC News website: The Road to Syria

Documentary: VICE – Interviews Boko Haram And Genetic Selection

Season Four of VICE TV on HBO begins with a report from Nigeria on the government’s fight against the terrorist group Boko Haram.

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Documentary: VICE – Iraq: 3 Weeks With Islamic Extremists

The lightning advances the (self-proclaimed) Islamic State made across Syria and Iraq in June (2014) shocked the world. But it’s not just the group’s military victories that have garnered attention — it’s also the pace with which its members have begun to carve out a viable state.

Flush with cash and US weapons seized during its advances in Iraq, the Islamic State’s expansion shows no sign of slowing down.

In the first week of August alone (2014), Islamic State fighters have taken over new areas in northern Iraq, encroaching on Kurdish territory and sending Christians and other minorities fleeing as reports of massacres emerged. VICE News reporter Medyan Dairieh spent three weeks embedded with the Islamic State, gaining unprecedented access to the group in Iraq and Syria as the first and only journalist to document its inner workings.

The Islamic State.

Watch VICE TV’s follow-up report on the war against ISIS.

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Documentary: VICE – Iraq: Reporters Follow Rebels Fighting ISIS

This documentary follows journalist Ben Anderson as he embeds with Iraqi fighters battling the Islamic State. He gains access to the three front lines in Iraq, where Sunni, Shiite and Kurdish forces are fighting for their lives. [01]

  • Thirteen years later, Iraq has collapsed into warring states.
  • A third of the country is controlled by ISIS,
  • which has also taken huge amounts of territory in Syria.

Anderson visits Russian military forces in Syria and meets captured ISIS fighters in Kurdistan.

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Correspondent Ben Anderson goes on location to the unofficial borders separating the apocalyptic death cult’s caliphate and the surrounding civilian populations trying to flee or hold their ground. In each sectarian region, as well as on a Russian military base in Syria, he interviews Peshmerga fighting for a free Kurdistan, the abandoned remains of the Sons Of Iraq, Yazidi families, Shiite Iranian-backed militants, and captured ISIS jihadis,” outlines Dan Jakes in his A.V. Club review.

Correspondent Ben Anderson, seen on the VICE series, is a brave war reporter who takes himself and his uncredited cameraperson to the front lines in the fight against ISIS.
Correspondent Ben Anderson, seen on the VICE series, a brave war reporter takes himself camera-person to the front lines of war against ISIS. (Photo: HBO Watch).

Jakes continues, “Anderson instead tries to establish the facts and point out the catch-22s in order to facilitate a debate. Vice prides itself in visceral storytelling, and in that, it greatly succeeds. In one Orwellian scene, a soldier in Anbar Province shows off the welded and jerry-rigged weapons he and his soldiers use, then traces their ownership back and forth between them, the U.S., and the old Iraqi Army. The episode is smart enough to counter seemingly obvious solutions with hindsight and perspective. Why not just arm more rebel groups? Because that’s part of the reason why the region is so flooded with advanced weapons to begin with.

A conversation with Russian Prime Minister Dmitry Medvedev, in which “terrorist” is tossed around seemingly without any attempt to clarify Islamic State versus rebels fighting Bashar Al-Assad (not mentioned once until 40 minutes in), is especially head-scratching. Sure, an hour is a short amount of time to recap more than a decade’s worth of bad Middle Eastern policies, but PBS has successfully … found a way to do it without coming under gunfire.

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Documentary: Melissa Fleming – A Voice For Refugees

Every day, I listen to harrowing stories of people fleeing for their lives, across dangerous borders and unfriendly seas. But there’s one story that keeps me awake at night, and it’s about Doaa,” Melissa Fleming Voice for refugees.

As head of communications for the UN’s High Commissioner for Refugees, Melissa Fleming sheds light on their devastating plight and remarkable resilience.

Aboard an overloaded ship carrying more than 500 refugees, a young woman becomes an unlikely hero.

This single, powerful story, told by Melissa Fleming of the UN’s refugee agency, gives a human face to the sheer numbers of human beings trying to escape to better lives … as the refugee ships keep coming. (Filmed in May 2015 at TED TV).

The transcript to this documentary can be read here on Alistair Reign.

 

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Documentary: Mad World Of Donald Trump With Matt Frei

UK’s Channel 4 recently showed this entertaining documentary appropriately entitled:

The Mad World of Donald Trump

Matt Frei enters the colourful and mad world of presidential hopeful, Donald Trump.

Discover the man behind the brand, from the multiple divorces, the bankruptcies, the public insults aimed at women who crossed him to claims of bullying Scottish residents who stood in the way of his golf resort.

It’s the all-consuming story of a privileged multi-billionaire tycoon who has now decided to use his considerable resource to become the most powerful person on the planet

The Mad World of Donald Trump - Matt Frei at Trump Towers.
Matt Frei: The Mad World of Donald Trump. (Photo: BBC).

Presenting the film is Matt Frei, who says: Whether or not ‘the Donald’ goes on to win his party’s nomination or indeed the White House his dominance in the polls and his bare knuckle style encapsulate America’s journey from hope and change to fear and loathing… He is a one man herd who thrives on trampling over America’s most sacred sensibilities knowing that the outrage of New York, Washington and Hollywood only swells his support amongst Americans who feel left behind and unheard”.

Frei is on the campaign trail, meeting those who oppose Trump as well as his fervent supporters who believe he is the epitome of American success and will deliver on his promise to “Make America Great Again”. Leading the polls for the Republican presidential nomination Frei asks if “The Donald”, as he is known, can really go all the way and make it to the White House.

The piece includes an interview with the British (Independent TV) newscaster and journalist Selina Scott who did a profile of him in 1995. Trump threw a hissy fit when he discovered he could not dictate what Scott reported.

Donald Trump, US realtor turned presidential candidates gives POINTS to his fans. (Photo: Google).
Donald Trump, US realtor turned presidential candidate gives POINTS to his fans. (Photo: Google).

The documentary shows footage of Trump with TV presenter Selina Scott in New York in 1995 initially being charming towards her. In the clip, the Republican party candidate says: “I love beautiful things. That’s why I like you so much… She is beautiful…even though she doesn’t believe it.”

Earlier on in the filming he revealed that he wanted to have the newly divorced Princess Diana as his wife. (That would also have made him step father to a future King of Britain)

Princess Diana was not having it according to Scott, saying that Trump gave her the ‘creeps.’

Scott also comments on Trump’s political success in the documentary, saying;It surprises me that any woman in America can vote for this guy. They must be out of their heads.

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Documentary Transcript: Melissa Fleming – One Survivor’s Story

Aboard an overloaded ship carrying more than 500 refugees, a young woman becomes an unlikely hero. This single, powerful story, told by Melissa Fleming of the UN’s refugee agency, gives a human face to the sheer numbers of human beings trying to escape to better lives … as the refugee ships keep coming,

“Every day, I listen to harrowing stories of people fleeing for their lives, across dangerous borders and unfriendly seas. But there’s one story that keeps me awake at night, and it’s about Doaa,” Melissa FlemingVoice for refugees. As head of communications for the UN’s High Commissioner for Refugees, Melissa Fleming sheds light on their devastating plight and remarkable resilience.

Watch the full video report in our Documentary section.

Transcript of the video report as follows.

00:29 A Syrian refugee, 19 years old, she was living a grinding existence in Egypt working day wages. Her dad was constantly thinking of his thriving business back in Syria that had been blown to pieces by a bomb.And the war that drove them there was still raging in its fourth year. And the community that once welcomed them there had become weary of them. And one day, men on motorcycles tried to kidnap her. Once an aspiring student thinking only of her future, now she was scared all the time.

01:13 But she was also full of hope, because she was in love with a fellow Syrian refugee named Bassem. Bassem was also struggling in Egypt, and he said to Doaa, Let’s go to Europe; seek asylum, safety. I will work, you can study — the promise of a new life. And he asked her father for her hand in marriage.

01:37 But they knew to get to Europe they had to risk their lives, traveling across the Mediterranean Sea,putting their hands in smugglers’, notorious for their cruelty. And Doaa was terrified of the water. She always had been. She never learned to swim.

02:01 It was August that year, and already 2,000 people had died trying to cross the Mediterranean, but Doaa knew of a friend who had made it all the way to Northern Europe, and she thought, “Maybe we can, too.” So she asked her parents if they could go, and after a painful discussion, they consented, and Bassem paid his entire life savings — 2,500 dollars each — to the smugglers.

02:29 It was a Saturday morning when the call came, and they were taken by bus to a beach, hundreds of people on the beach. They were taken then by small boats onto an old fishing boat, 500 of them crammed onto that boat, 300 below, 500 above. There were Syrians, Palestinians, Africans, Muslims and Christians, 100 children, including Sandra — little Sandra, six years old — and Masa, 18 months.

  • There were families on that boat, crammed together shoulder to shoulder, feet to feet. Doaa was sitting with her legs crammed up to her chest, Bassem holding her hand.

03:15 Day two on the water, they were sick with worry and sick to their stomachs from the rough sea.

03:22 Day three, Doaa had a premonition. And she said to Bassem, “I fear we’re not going to make it. I fear the boat is going to sink. And Bassem said to her, “Please be patient. We will make it to Sweden, we will get married and we will have a future.

03:42  Day four, the passengers were getting agitated. They asked the captain, “When will we get there?” He told them to shut up, and he insulted them. He said, “In 16 hours we will reach the shores of Italy. They were weak and weary. Soon they saw a boat approach — a smaller boat, 10 men on board, who started shouting at them, hurling insults, throwing sticks, asking them to all disembark and get on this smaller, more unseaworthy boat. The parents were terrified for their children, and they collectively refused to disembark. So the boat sped away in anger, and a half an hour later, came back and started deliberately ramming a hole in the side of Doaa’s boat, just below where she and Bassem were sitting.

  • And she heard how they yelled, Let the fish eat your flesh! And they started laughing as the boat capsized and sank.

04:56 The 300 people below deck were doomed. Doaa was holding on to the side of the boat as it sank, and watched in horror as a small child was cut to pieces by the propeller. Bassem said to her, “Please let go,or you’ll be swept in and the propeller will kill you, too. And remember — she can’t swim. But she let go and she started moving her arms and her legs, thinking, “This is swimming. And miraculously, Bassem found a life ring. It was one of those child’s rings that they use to play in swimming pools and on calm seas. And Doaa climbed onto the ring, her arms and her legs dangling by the side. Bassem was a good swimmer, so he held her hand and tread water. Around them there were corpses. Around 100 people survived initially, and they started coming together in groups, praying for rescue. But when a day went by and no one came, some people gave up hope, and Doaa and Bassem watched as men in the distance took their life vests off and sank into the water.

06:18 One man approached them with a small baby perched on his shoulder, nine months old — Malek. He was holding onto a gas canister to stay afloat, and he said to them, I fear I am not going to survive. I’m too weak. I don’t have the courage anymore. And he handed little Malek over to Bassem and to Doaa, and they perched her onto the life ring. So now they were three, Doaa, Bassem and little Malek.

06:50 And let me take a pause in this story right here and ask the question: why do refugees like Doaa take these kinds of risks? Millions of refugees are living in exile, in limbo. They’re living in countries [fleeing] from a war that has been raging for four years. Even if they wanted to return, they can’t.

  • Their homes, their businesses, their towns and their cities have been completely destroyed.

This is a UNESCO World Heritage City, Homs, in Syria. So people continue to flee into neighboring countries, and we build refugee camps for them in the desert. Hundreds of thousands of people live in camps like these, and thousands and thousands more, millions, live in towns and cities. And the communities, the neighboring countries that once welcomed them with open arms and hearts are overwhelmed. There are simply not enough schools, water systems, sanitation. Even rich European countries could never handle such an influx without massive investment.

The Syria war has driven almost four million people over the borders, but over seven million people are on the run inside the country. That means that over half the Syrian population has been forced to flee. Back to those neighboring countries hosting so many. They feel that the richer world has done too little to support them. And days have turned into months, months into years. A refugee’s stay is supposed to be temporary.

08:49 Back to Doaa and Bassem in the water. It was their second day, and Bassem was getting very weak. And now it was Doaa’s turn to say to Bassem, My love, please hold on to hope, to our future. We will make it.” And he said to her, I’m sorry, my love, that I put you in this situation. I have never loved anyone as much as I love you. And he released himself into the water, and Doaa watched as the love of her life drowned before her eyes.

09:34 Later that day, a mother came up to Doaa with her small 18-month-old daughter, Masa. This was the little girl I showed you in the picture earlier, with the life vests. Her older sister Sandra had just drowned, and her mother knew she had to do everything in her power to save her daughter. And she said to Doaa, “Please take this child. Let her be part of you. I will not survive. And then she went away and drowned.

10:10 So Doaa, the 19-year-old refugee who was terrified of the water, who couldn’t swim, found herself in charge of two little baby kids. And they were thirsty and they were hungry and they were agitated, and she tried her best to amuse them, to sing to them, to say words to them from the Quran. Around them, the bodies were bloating and turning black. The sun was blazing during the day. At night, there was a cold moon and fog.

  • It was very frightening. On the fourth day in the water, this is how Doaa probably looked on the ring with her two children.

10:52 A woman came on the fourth day and approached her and asked her to take another child — a little boy, just four years old. When Doaa took the little boy and the mother drowned, she said to the sobbing child,She just went away to find you water and food. But his heart soon stopped, and Doaa had to release the little boy into the water.

11:22 Later that day, she looked up into the sky with hope, because she saw two planes crossing in the sky. And she waved her arms, hoping they would see her, but the planes were soon gone.

11:38 But that afternoon, as the sun was going down, she saw a boat, a merchant vessel. And she said, “Please, God, let them rescue me.  She waved her arms and she felt like she shouted for about two hours. And it had become dark, but finally the searchlights found her and they extended a rope, astonished to see a woman clutching onto two babies.

12:05 They pulled them onto the boat, they got oxygen and blankets, and a Greek helicopter came to pick them up and take them to the island of Crete.

12:15 But Doaa looked down and asked, “What of Malek? And they told her the little baby did not survive —she drew her last breath in the boat’s clinic. But Doaa was sure that as they had been pulled up onto the rescue boat, that little baby girl had been smiling.

  • Only 11 people survived that wreck, of the 500. There was never an international investigation into what happened. There were some media reports about mass murder at sea, a terrible tragedy, but that was only for one day. And then the news cycle moved on.

13:03 Meanwhile, in a pediatric hospital on Crete, little Masa was on the edge of death. She was really dehydrated. Her kidneys were failing. Her glucose levels were dangerously low. The doctors did everything in their medical power to save them, and the Greek nurses never left her side, holding her, hugging her, singing her words. My colleagues also visited and said pretty words to her in Arabic. Amazingly, little Masa survived.

13:39 And soon the Greek press started reporting about the miracle baby, who had survived four days in the water without food or anything to drink, and offers to adopt her came from all over the country.

13:56 And meanwhile, Doaa was in another hospital on Crete, thin, dehydrated. An Egyptian family took her into their home as soon as she was released. And soon word went around about Doaa’s survival, and a phone number was published on Facebook. Messages started coming in.

14:21 Doaa, do you know what happened to my brother? My sister? My parents? My friends? Do you know if they survived?

14:34 One of those messages said, I believe you saved my little niece, Masa. And it had this photo. This was from Masa’s uncle, a Syrian refugee who had made it to Sweden with his family and also Masa’s older sister. Soon, we hope, Masa will be reunited with him in Sweden, and until then, she’s being cared for in a beautiful orphanage in Athens.

15:09 And Doaa? Well, word went around about her survival, too. And the media wrote about this slight woman, and couldn’t imagine how she could survive all this time under such conditions in that sea, and still save another life. The Academy of Athens, one of Greece’s most prestigious institutions, gave her an award of bravery, and she deserves all that praise, and she deserves a second chance. But she wants to still go to Sweden. She wants to reunite with her family there. She wants to bring her mother and her father and her younger siblings away from Egypt there as well, and I believe she will succeed.

  • She wants to become a lawyer or a politician or something that can help fight injustice. She is an extraordinary survivor.

16:14 But I have to ask: what if she didn’t have to take that risk? Why did she have to go through all that? Why wasn’t there a legal way for her to study in Europe? Why couldn’t Masa have taken an airplane to Sweden? Why couldn’t Bassem have found work?

Why is there no massive resettlement program for Syrian refugees, the victims of the worst war of our times? The world did this for the Vietnamese in the 1970s. Why not now?

Why is there so little investment in the neighboring countries hosting so many refugees? And why, the root question, is so little being done to stop the wars, the persecution and the poverty that is driving so many people to the shores of Europe?

Until these issues are resolved, people will continue to take to the seas and to seek safety and asylum.

17:27 And what happens next? Well, that is largely Europe’s choice. And I understand the public fears. People are worried about their security, their economies, the changes of culture. But is that more important than saving human lives? Because there is something fundamental here that I think overrides the rest, and it is about our common humanity.

  • No person fleeing war or persecution should have to die crossing a sea to reach safety.

18:13 One thing is for sure, that no refugee would be on those dangerous boats if they could thrive where they are. And no migrant would take that dangerous journey if they had enough food for themselves and their children. And no one would put their life savings in the hands of those notorious smugglers if there was a legal way to migrate.

18:36 So on behalf of little Masa and on behalf of Doaa and of Bassem and of those 500 people who drowned with them, can we make sure that they did not die in vain?

Could we be inspired by what happened, and take a stand for a world in which every life matters?

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Melissa Fleming: A boat carrying 500 refugees sunk at sea. The story of two survivors.